Our own experience at the Club these so called hard men turn up for a couple of sessions find it to hard leave then brag about how they do MMA
Dan Murray Change is fine. But I don't see mma as a martial art. I like to watch it and I've competed in it but it had no spiritual or educational value. Not all, but most mma fighters I have met are egotistical thugs who like to say there a "cage fighter". That's not martial arts and there certainly not martial artists. This isn't true of all but it wouldn't be true at all if martial arts values where included.